What happens if we add the reducing agent from the beginning?

[Stagno]

Really that much,I'm glad you said that I would have used only 100mg,I will start with 250mg. Is there anything else I need to do,or is it just a case of heating the water,adding the maltodextrin and starting the process?

[Stagno]

Thank you

[Stagno]

LOl I won't don't worry thanks    Oh also do you know up to what strength is maltodextrin good for?

[schiaucu]

Somehow glucose reacts with sodium carbonate and reduces the conductivity, so is not acting as electrolyte.

[schiaucu]

I have started with all together, water, sodium carbonate and glucose. The current was all the time at 4mA. At the start, the voltage between the electrodes was 16.2V and it raised constantly until, 30 min later it was somewhere around 19.5V. The both electrodes were almost clear and very easy to clean. I dont have an explanation.
On the other hand, when I started only with the distilled water and the sodium carbonate as electrolyte, at the same current, the starting voltage was the same16.2V but during the electrolysis, it’s dropped until 9.8V. When I have added the glucose, the conductivity dramatically decreased and color changed to amber. The only conclusion for me is that the glucose reduces the silver ions but in the same time, somehow “caps” the sodium carbonate also and stops him to act as electrolyte. The amber color means almost no conductivity at all.

[schiaucu]

At the beginning of the process I have 16V and no ions, only sodium carbonate. At the end I have 20V. If the sodium carbonate should be stable, normally silver ions raises the conductivity and drops the voltage so I should expect no more than 16V during the process. Even when the silver ions are reduced, the conductivity should come back to the initial, which means 16V. Right?

[schiaucu]

I don’t know, I will wait other opinions. In the mean time I will search for answers and if I will find something, I will keep you informed.

[schiaucu]

I used glucose,exactly the same as schiaucu did

Yours was also turbid? Mine was almost milky.

[Stagno]

For my part,I used steam distilled water 0 on TDS meter and mine too went milky after only half the run. I have no idea what else could be going on,my equipment is the same that I always use ( I usually make 40ppm hot and reduce afterwards). I have made at least 100 batches with this equipment and all have come out perfect,super clear and golden yellow. So as for why the milkiness occurred I am clueless. My conclusion was "that doesn't work,try something else" ( Like your suggestion of maltodextrin).

[SanchoPanza]

I've done electrolysis with reducers added, never saw milky.
I have seen milky from bad water though, and also from vessel contamination.
Might be something that will not show up on a tds meter?

-Sancho

[SanchoPanza]

Can't really detect the milkiness in the pics, ...clearly different results though.
I assume the particles on left are much larger, because of the way these "seeds" were initially formed?
Do you suppose the shape of the final nano's are still the same?

-Sancho