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Title: My very first batchs of 320ppm. . . Just a couple of questions?
Post by: GO2GUY on March 19, 2020, 08:23:13 PM
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Kepha's 320 formula
250ml cold distilled water
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 Heat water to a simmer (about 200F)
  SOURCE:https://www.cgcsforum.org/index.php?topic=758.0


Im going to brewing large batch of 320 [l liter and 1 gal]
So as a test run I tried heating a gallon to 200 degrees to see how long it takes , AND IT TAKES FOR EVER!!!!! It took 1 hour on the stove at Max heat in a full rolling water bath boil to get there. . . and was just seemingly impossible on the hot plate. . [my guess is it will maintain that temp on a hot plate BUT take days getting there] Im going to  start with the liter batch first to see how it goes but had a few questions. . .

-So my question is can I add all the ingredients in the batch [knox,electrolyte, corn syrup]  then heat on stove in a water bath or microwave to get to temp and then,  once to temp then place on the hot plate stirrer and do the run?  Would this be okay. .

-Also I saw a post on here where someone has posted there very detailed process of how they brew a  320 batch, however i can not find that post after many many failed attempt searching for it , if anyone has a link I would apreciated. . .

Im also very open ears to any suggestions ,
I so very gratefull for any answer . . .  Many Thanks as usually

Title: Re: My very first batchs of 320ppm. . . Just a couple of questions?
Post by: GO2GUY on March 20, 2020, 05:53:17 AM
Well I went ahead tried out it 2 ways, first fime failed second time came out great. .

first attempt was starting with cold water, adding gelatin, corn syrup baking soda and then heating water water in microwave, this failed miserably because when boiling in microwave, something crystallized[not sure either the gelatin of the syrup]  since it was not fully disolved I didnt start electrolysis with that one so I just tossed the water. .

round 2 I did it a lot different, I added the gelatin corn syrup and baking soda to a 100ml beaker under high stir and on the hot plate , while doing this I had a 1 liter full to about 900 ml in the microwave for about 5-8 minuts to a rolling boil, reached 195 degrees, took it out added the 100 mil beaker with the solution it it which was also arround 195.  Placed it on Hot plate stirrer and started electrolysis.

 Since this was my first brew with 320ppm and with my new 6"x1.625" silver anode I played arround with amerage and submersion of the cathode,
I was [very disapointed, when I was only peaking 40 mili amps with only about half inch. . dipped the cathode and going in deeper MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE but still didnt  much pass 90ma . . . so I realized my very very thin [ithink 16-18awg awg]cathode was really limited my power, so I switched my bullion as an negative and my 6inch plate  AND BOOM, the sky was the limit, for testing purposes I briefly  all the way 200ma [just for testing to see how high i can go ] definitley amazed, I saw somewhere posted on the boards, that a smoke looking substance  coming off the anode is the limit , So I hit that limit at about 160ma, so I backed it down to 120 with no smoke substance. Very happy with this 120

Brewed a liter in about 35-40  minutes, however this was a rough estimate since of all the playing around with amperage and was exactly sure where i was . .


 BUT THE SOLUTION LOOKS BEAUTIFUL ONCE DILUTED to 4 table spoons to a liter 20 ppm solution , great clarity, no tyndall !!!!!!!  . . THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITH ALL THE GREAT INFO ON this site.  .. .  THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!So exited

here is a pic of the first batch with a laser thru it. .  working on the gallon now!!!! wish me luck!
Title: Re: My very first batchs of 320ppm. . . Just a couple of questions?
Post by: cfnisbet on March 20, 2020, 07:27:51 PM
Well done; it looks perfect!
Title: Re: My very first batchs of 320ppm. . . Just a couple of questions?
Post by: dark chocolate on March 21, 2020, 11:47:46 PM
Hi All apologies for hi-jacking  this thread asking for help.  New member with a lot of questions. I can't get my aged head round how to make a new post. Please advise. With much thanks. Dark chocolate
Title: Re: My very first batchs of 320ppm. . . Just a couple of questions?
Post by: cfnisbet on March 22, 2020, 02:17:39 PM
Go to the newbie intro thread and click "reply". Then post your introduction.
Title: Re: My very first batchs of 320ppm. . . Just a couple of questions?
Post by: bcboy on April 13, 2020, 12:22:31 AM
Nice thread you have started.
Where did you purchase your 6"x1.625" silver anode?
Thanks.  ;D