Author Topic: Is it too late to add the capping agent?  (Read 2652 times)

Offline cfnisbet

  • Administrator
  • Participant
  • *****
  • Posts: 2560
  • Likes: 184
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2020, 09:12:30 PM »
All reducing agents that we recommend, also act as capping agents. All capping agents except gelatine, also act as reducing agents.

RedDogJT

  • Guest
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2020, 12:23:48 AM »
All reducing agents that we recommend, also act as capping agents. All capping agents except gelatine, also act as reducing agents.
:)Thank you so much! A direct answer all in one place. Gelatine caps the best but will not act as a reducing agent. Perfect.

Offline cfnisbet

  • Administrator
  • Participant
  • *****
  • Posts: 2560
  • Likes: 184
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2020, 11:15:08 AM »
Just remember that you can't "cap" ionic products, nor would you need to.

An ionic product will be instantly turned into chloride in the stomach.

RedDogJT

  • Guest
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2020, 01:46:03 AM »
Just remember that you can't "cap" ionic products, nor would you need to.

An ionic product will be instantly turned into chloride in the stomach.
Okay, now I need clarification again. Isn't the current protocol to make ionic, then reduce it to a colloid, then cap it? Or does using an electrolyte skip ionic and go straight to particles?

Offline cfnisbet

  • Administrator
  • Participant
  • *****
  • Posts: 2560
  • Likes: 184
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2020, 07:09:01 PM »
Just remember that you can't "cap" ionic products, nor would you need to.

An ionic product will be instantly turned into chloride in the stomach.
Okay, now I need clarification again. Isn't the current protocol to make ionic, then reduce it to a colloid, then cap it? Or does using an electrolyte skip ionic and go straight to particles?
Nearly.

Using an electrolyte stops plate-out and keeps the current even.
Using the reducing agent reduces the ionic silver oxide into nanoparticles.
Most reducing agents also cap the particles with varying degrees of success.

The process happens in that order.

bcboy

  • Guest
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2020, 11:04:23 PM »

Nearly.

Using an electrolyte stopsplate-out  and keeps the current even.
Using the reducing agent reduces the ionic silver oxide into nanoparticles.
Most reducing agents also cap the particles with varying degrees of success.

The process happens in that order.
What is plate-out?
Thanks

Offline cfnisbet

  • Administrator
  • Participant
  • *****
  • Posts: 2560
  • Likes: 184
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2020, 03:14:51 PM »
What we want, is for the silver to leave the anode, then react in solution and come out of solution as nanoparticles, still floating in the distilled water, and then stay there.

Plate-out is where the silver leaves the anode, goes into solution and then plates out (leaves the solution) onto the cathode as silver crystals or silver oxide, neither of which is desirable; because the silver is lost to the colloidal silver solution and in any case the particles are far too big to be useful.

Offline imcool

  • Participant
  • **
  • Posts: 244
  • Likes: 7
Re: Is it too late to add the capping agent?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2020, 09:53:40 PM »
wow great thread