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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2020, 02:43:14 AM »
1 amp is 1000ma so 0.005amps would be 5ma

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2020, 02:46:36 AM »
Hi, I'm new here, sorry if I'm questioning on the wrong place..
I have 14V, 11mA .. I'm trying to produce some.. is it good? The ideal is 25 ppm for oral treatment? How long i need to produce 1 litter?
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2020, 03:38:27 AM »
Yes I was look8ng at a 50v 5ma Module to build my own power supply.

https://www.ebay.com/i/253362877198?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=253362877198&targetid=907798224154&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012276&poi=&campaignid=9338046428&mkgroupid=94993970859&rlsatarget=pla-907798224154&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118852035&gclid=CjwKCAjw1cX0BRBmEiwAy9tKHko8ptjYsioVKfDfRAzCrOvthbA539EmtaRLrM_K2UjlfLDhH1_-exoCoDQQAvD_BwE

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Ed,
The module you showed me is not 5ma, it is 5AMP and it is a similar module to what I have, only more modern and 50v VS mine is 36. It will do an awesome job for the generator, however in my opinion 50V is a little bit overkill. I have never seen that somebody will use more than 30V but I may be wrong and also to get up to 50v you will have to provide 50v power supply which will be harder to find and more expensive.  I may be able to help you with the power supply, we use CISCO access points at work which has a 48v power supply. I will search E-Bay and if I find one I will send you a link.


Can you please tell me the difference of 5ma, and 5AMP , And would I be able to set that module at 5ma?
Sorry  electronics is not my strong hold ..
Ed

So I would have to set the Amps At 0.0005A on the module ?

Ed,
Set your module to CC (current control) to 0.005mA. Do not worry about the voltage. Use around 20-30V it will go up and down depending on the current. At the beginning it will show 0.000mA, however once you start adding electrolytes the current will go up and MUST stop at the 0.005mA. This is what the CC regulator does, it monitors the current. DO NOT set it up by the voltage use, only current control; the voltage will then adjust itself automatically. 


The dot after first digit 0.000 represents the current
The dot after second digit 00.00 represents the voltage.     


Here is the video on you tube may help you with the setting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0ymIulKa0
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2020, 11:37:22 AM »
Awesome thanks!

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #109 on: April 15, 2020, 05:41:43 PM »
THE MAKING AND USE OF GELATINE AND CINNAMON TINCTURE

To make the gelatine solution:

Dissolve 1 gram of Knox unflavored gelatin in 1 cup of cold water.
Alllow to bloom for 5 minutes.
Heat until the gelatin dissolves (water looks clear again)
Allow to cool, and then bottle the gelatin liquid.
This is your gelatine stock solution.

Make the colloidal silver. While the colloidal silver is still hot, add 5 or 10 mls of the gelatin formula per 250ml of colloidal silver. Allow to cool.

Can you elaborate a bit more on gelatin's ability to make high concentration colloidal silver?  I'm lost at the initial stage where we have the electrolyte cooking away for the instructed time per the Volts, Amps, and Bar sizes. I get that part, but what makes the PPM higher.  I'm pretty sure that the 20PPM I end up with before capping does not magically become 150ppm just by adding gelatin?  Can I assume that the electrolysis front end time is simple extended to get more silver in solution, which is unstable UNTIL capped by gelatin?
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #110 on: April 15, 2020, 06:15:16 PM »
Ppm depends only on current, time and water volume.
Gelatin makes it possible to have higher ppm with stability.
Capping makes it stable.

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #111 on: April 15, 2020, 06:47:10 PM »
Ppm depends only on current, time and water volume.
Gelatin makes it possible to have higher ppm with stability.
Capping makes it stable.
Thanks Liam, I got a more detailed description in another thread here that describes the process exactly! Now I got that part. One last hurdle
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #112 on: April 15, 2020, 10:02:11 PM »
Could this be produced into a nice downloadable PDF for future reference in case the site vanishes or is Orwellianly vanished etc?

I will certainly consider this. In the meantime, I would encourage readers to copy and paste the first two pages of this thread into a Word or LibreOffice document. If you use LibreOffice, you can save the document output as a PDF file.
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2020, 02:16:50 PM »
Will the silicone tube handle hot colloidal silver going through it? Or must you wait till it's cooler to filter-siphon it out?

There are no issues with filtering hot colloidal silver, I do it all the time because I'm impatient
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2020, 07:35:17 PM »
I've started to create with pictures too, cuz I like pictures. I just copy and paste CF's text on the right pictures he posted.
The one point I'm getting stuck on is CC (constant current) versus CV (constant Voltage), as I think my unit starts out with CC when I turn it on, but switches to CV when I dial up the power.  It still seemed to work when I put the MMeter inline like CF's pictures show. I was getting 5+mA (I think that is what it meant) and I could adjust that mA by raising or lowering the copper Anode
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2020, 08:03:19 PM »
Always turn your voltage control full up, maximum.       Correct.
Adjust current with the current control.         Correct.
The power supply will then vary the voltage to keep the current constant.
Current = voltage divided by resistance.
Resistance is determined by your cell chemistry which changes with time, and the electrode configuration.

If you are changing the ma (current) by raising and lowering the cathode, you are doing it wrong.

 Correct.
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2020, 08:09:50 PM »
Always turn your voltage control full up, maximum.
Adjust current with the current control. 
The power supply will then vary the voltage to keep the current constant.
Current = voltage divided by resistance.
Resistance is determined by your cell chemistry which changes with time, and the electrode configuration.

If you are changing the ma (current) by raising and lowering the cathode, you are doing it wrong.
Damn, I was afraid of that. I did do it wrong then. So I've narrowed the problem down to my lack of understanding of the PSU.
It will not stay on CC.  I read someplace here that you have to short out the unit to get it to switch to CC? Short might be the wrong term, but could you point me in the right direction?


This can often happen if you try to adjust the CC circuit too high. If this happens, just run the batch and manually note the current. The amperage will eventually climb into the CC zone.
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2020, 01:34:21 AM »
Will the silicone tube handle hot colloidal silver going through it? Or must you wait till it's cooler to filter-siphon it out?

There are no issues with filtering hot colloidal silver, I do it all the time because I'm impatient

Not for showoff, but every batch I made it's very clean/clear and has nothing floating inside, DO I still have to filter it?

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2020, 02:55:14 AM »
No, filtering is more or less just a cosmetic thing when the run is imperfect and you get metal particles or dust in the glass or what-have-you.

Silicone is heat resistant. I use a silicone tube to extend the nozzle of my distiller down into the glassware, so that's close to boiling temperature. No issues. There's silicone oven mats.

Correct, thanks. I had forgotten about the oven mats, we cook our chips on one.
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #119 on: April 17, 2020, 05:01:59 AM »
No, filtering is more or less just a cosmetic thing when the run is imperfect and you get metal particles or dust in the glass or what-have-you.

Silicone is heat resistant. I use a silicone tube to extend the nozzle of my distiller down into the glassware, so that's close to boiling temperature. No issues. There's silicone oven mats.

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