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How to maximize water purification?
waynes:
Hi. I hope I have the right subforum.
Does anybody know any good cheap glass single pass or multiple section distilling, or other type of, system that can get close to nonconductive water in purity? I'm looking at just doing pure silver plus water, without anything else.
I'm wanting to get extremely pure water to use with my silver well (silverpuppy) colloidal silver maker. I have been sick and using an off the shelf purified water in recent times, but the results have been from unimpressive to bad. I found that using my kettle like distiller, distilling the same water seven times worked like a charm, though doing three times wasn't far off that. But this is expensive and takes days to get through, and the stainless steel in the device adds it's own pro inflammatory impurities (and if you use the charcoal filter to get rid of that, you are back at square one with impurities). So, I've resolved to explore a more continuous single or multipass distilling method, but don't know what I'm looking at?
Many thanks for any constructive help.
cfnisbet:
--- Quote from: waynes on January 02, 2020, 05:59:01 PM ---Does anybody know any good cheap glass single pass or multiple section distilling, or other type of, system that can get close to nonconductive water in purity? I'm looking at just doing pure silver plus water, without anything else.
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Firstly, buy a distiller. A single pass is all you will need. Using the kettle is the next best thing, but you may need to have a complete set of new and clean things (kettle, metal plate, collection bowl) to be effective.
--- Quote from: waynes on January 02, 2020, 05:59:01 PM ---I have been sick and using an off the shelf purified water in recent times, but the results have been from unimpressive to bad. I found that using my kettle like distiller, distilling the same water seven times worked like a charm, though doing three times wasn't far off that. But this is expensive and takes days to get through, and the stainless steel in the device adds it's own pro inflammatory impurities (and if you use the charcoal filter to get rid of that, you are back at square one with impurities). So, I've resolved to explore a more continuous single or multipass distilling method, but don't know what I'm looking at?.
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If you are in the USA, most Walmarts or similar places have distilled water for you to buy and this is normally good enough. In the UK, you will have to buy from APC Pure or a similar place.
--- Quote from: waynes on January 02, 2020, 05:59:01 PM ---I'm wanting to get extremely pure water to use with my silver well (silverpuppy) colloidal silver maker.
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The silverpuppy can make Ionic Colloidal Silver. Not very well, but it can. However, this machine needs you to use the electrolytes and reducers that we recommend. Read the Articles.
You will not make Colloidal Silver to a good standard without following our method. Using water and nothing else will make Ionic Silver Oxide and it may reduce spontaneously but this would be inefficient or marginal. You should try to learn from our collective mistakes and knowledge and not try to reinvent the wheel. We do know what we are talking about, here.
The people on this forum have made thousands of litres of "the real thing" and equally have wasted a lot of distilled water in doing things the wrong way. The manufacturers of these machines haven't the faintest idea what they are doing, or they would recommend our method. It's not as if we keep it a secret, and we can't patent our methods - thank heaven, otherewise the powers-that-would-like-to-be would immediately do so to stop us from offering the information for nothing.
waynes:
Hi thanks. That's not what I'm looking for. I have a key distiller, it is not good enough, even on several passes I still can taste the metal, the the water is generally high quality by then.
I do want ionic silver. These colloidal machines mainly produce ionic, so not much of a problem there and some colloidal is complementary in action. The puppy is rated reasonable by the brand that does the commercial ones (forget which company thst was) over other brands. I don't know if I have made 1000 liters yet, but water purity is a big factor, and those stainless steel distillers are a nightmare to clean between each pass of 3-7 passes (this includes using distilled water to repeatedly rinse out.
I asked only about better distillers, but have read that RO plus deioniser resin filter can get you to much less than 1 part per million contamination on a single pass, which is pretty impressive for the lack of work though I still am interested in the advanced distilling I mentioned as part as trialing something.
Distilled water here is expensive, and the quality of single distilling is not great, plus plastic bottles are going to cibtaminate the purity over time. Even the glass water jug of my distiller dues stuff to the water if I leave it in their. Purified water is a solvent, it leaches ions off many things it touches. Best to go straight from production to silver production.
I follow www.silvermedicine.org advice as to best methods. If your method is mentioned over there now, I would be happy to read that too, but I'm after something very specific without contaminates and a mixture of colloidal and smaller particle sizes. I normally recommend against anybody using anything else that might increase size and decrease potency or lead to enhanced intracellular absorption and going blue. But my knowledge is several years old.
I asked about specific things towards these things.
Thank you.
Josie29:
I'm still not sure what you're looking for ... based on your requirements you may never find it!
I use a water distiller. I distill only once per gallon of water used. I do not taste metal. There are no particles in my water (if I change the charcoal filter, the second gallon of water production is 100% clean ... the 1st gallon still has particles from the charcoal.) The distiller is easy to clean and is only cleaned after my completion of 4 to 6 gallons made for my weekly use. Even after cleaning, there are no particles of anything detectable in my water.
I make colloidal silver with my water. My colloidal silver is of good quality. I do not make ionic silver, as I have no use for it.
This is the distiller I use:
https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Distiller-Porcelain-Effective-Removal/dp/B010GLSB6C/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3EII6XEU9Z9RT&keywords=water+distillers+for+home&qid=1578098934&sprefix=water+distiller%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMEdCWDA0NTk3WE9DJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ3NDE2MVVNVUsyUEcyV0E3WSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODY2MzMwMVBXNU8zNU5GWTlaTyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
SaltyCornflakes:
Note that a faint taste of the machine is normal after distillation. You may add a final step of passing the distilled water through activated charcoal to get rid of the taste. If you use this charcoal only for already-distilled water, it is not going to develop microbes nor should it expire in any reasonable amount of time.
Distillation always produces a close-to-perfectly clean product. YMMV with different machines, plastic parts, etc. Your equipment also has to be spotless. Oh, one interesting point. I wouldn't run the distiller 'down to bare metal', because as the last bit of water evaporates, the temperature of the machine goes up, which allows other substances to possibly evaporate too. Run the machine close to the end, but leave a little bit of water in there.
If you consider stainless steel to be impure and pro-inflammatory, I think you may be chasing the impossible. Stainless steel and glass is about as good as you can get. But you may be able to buy one of these laboratory glass distillers, with a cooling coil etc. I personally don't see the need. My tabletop distiller works perfectly for colloidal silver. I don't even distill twice, like I do with gold.
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