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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Colloidal Silver : Is this color usual ?
« Last post by Gene on February 29, 2024, 06:50:36 PM »Regarding the amount of maltodextrin used, this is inline with the formula on this forum which assumes a worst case - all longest chain malto molecules so since malto is mixed bag unless you buy a single DE equivalency (you can but probably from a chemical supply house and you're going to pay a LOT for it) you absolutely have more than enough reducing groups to reduce what you made.
Also, I'd suggest you process at 150F. Thats what I and some other members do who've chimed in over the years.
At 150F, the solubility limit of silver oxide in water (what you're making before reduction) is about 40PPM. You always want reduction to outpace production of IS or you will have silver oxide precipitating out of solution or perhaps not ever going into solution where it won't reduce and that would be bad.
Another suggestion to try and get a handle on whats going on. Try making at say 5ma instead of 8ma. That'll produce slower but it will also give the produced silver oxide (that greyish black stuff on the anode that leaches into the water and dissolves) more time to do that as well as giving your reducer more time to reduce.
Regarding reducer, the formula is the best we can do given the variable nature of normally obtainable maltodextrin. Less is ill-advised but you can absolutely add more.
You didn't say what shape your anode is. Wire? Bullion bar?
And what about your electrode spacing and what voltage are you adjusting your cell to have before you start production. Rule of thumb is for 1.5" electrode spacing, 10V minimum across the cell.
I routinely make 80PPM non-gelcapped Colloidal Silver with malto and it always comes out crystal clear. I also routinely make 120PPM or 160PPM gel-capped (whatever I have time for since at 7ma where I run, 160PPM takes about 5-3/4 hours) and I always get crystal clear results. I'm just using the malto formula and using that amount and have never had an issue.
The only issue with malto is that it can impart a slight taste to the Colloidal Silver which some people don't like but you can always mix it with a little powdered drink mix or a little juice or even add a little honey to offset the taste if its undesireable to you.
Also, I'd suggest you process at 150F. Thats what I and some other members do who've chimed in over the years.
At 150F, the solubility limit of silver oxide in water (what you're making before reduction) is about 40PPM. You always want reduction to outpace production of IS or you will have silver oxide precipitating out of solution or perhaps not ever going into solution where it won't reduce and that would be bad.
Another suggestion to try and get a handle on whats going on. Try making at say 5ma instead of 8ma. That'll produce slower but it will also give the produced silver oxide (that greyish black stuff on the anode that leaches into the water and dissolves) more time to do that as well as giving your reducer more time to reduce.
Regarding reducer, the formula is the best we can do given the variable nature of normally obtainable maltodextrin. Less is ill-advised but you can absolutely add more.
You didn't say what shape your anode is. Wire? Bullion bar?
And what about your electrode spacing and what voltage are you adjusting your cell to have before you start production. Rule of thumb is for 1.5" electrode spacing, 10V minimum across the cell.
I routinely make 80PPM non-gelcapped Colloidal Silver with malto and it always comes out crystal clear. I also routinely make 120PPM or 160PPM gel-capped (whatever I have time for since at 7ma where I run, 160PPM takes about 5-3/4 hours) and I always get crystal clear results. I'm just using the malto formula and using that amount and have never had an issue.
The only issue with malto is that it can impart a slight taste to the Colloidal Silver which some people don't like but you can always mix it with a little powdered drink mix or a little juice or even add a little honey to offset the taste if its undesireable to you.