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the sodium citrate the same
« on: December 02, 2014, 07:48:07 PM »
i jsut got my gold chloride for salt lake . it cam with sodium citrate. when making your way would i use the same about of citrate thanks

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 08:11:04 PM »
also when making cinnamon extract when let sitting do i cover or leave open to atmosphere

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 08:17:16 PM »
If you use the citrate method, it takes a long time.
Instead:
250ml cold distilled water
1 ml gold chloride (20) drops
10 drops 1 M sodium carbonate
20 drops of corn syrup mixture (1/2 water and 1/2 corn syrup)

Heat it in the microwave for 2 minutes
Done.
Use a different dropper for the gold so you don't contaminate the bottle of gold chloride. 
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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 08:17:53 PM »
also when making cinnamon extract when let sitting do i cover or leave open to atmosphere
Cover it so the alcohol doesn't evaporate.
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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 08:22:22 PM »
thank you, on the colloidal gold will that make a 20 or 40 ppm

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 08:41:26 PM »
is there a link to a formula to fig that out

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 09:56:46 PM »
thank you, on the colloidal gold will that make a 20 or 40 ppm
1 ml of the gold chloride is .01 grams of gold (10 milligrams)
250 ml of water is 250 grams
.01/250 = .000040 grams gold per gram of water
.000040 X 1000000 = 40 grams gold per million grams of water or 40 parts per million.
Thats the formula
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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 01:06:08 AM »
when making

1 Molar Sodium Carbonate
12.4 grams pure food grade sodium carbonate
Enough distilled water to make 100ml

Arm and Hammer Washing soda weighs approximately 13.4 grams per tablespoon.

is that it jsut mix and let sit for a hr. is there any cooking involved?
do i add both sodium carbonate and washing soda or is it the same as carbonate. im just a little unsure that the last step i need to make my first batch

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 01:12:32 AM »
Just dissolve it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 02:02:06 AM »
is washing soda different than baking soda. sorry for all the questions i appreciate your patience

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 02:31:28 AM »
They are not the same. You can make wasing soda from baking soda.
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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2014, 02:42:25 AM »
if i bake it for an hr is that to long

or do i have to start over

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2014, 02:45:06 AM »
Once its convert, it wont change more.  It wont hurt to bake it longer. 
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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2014, 03:47:21 AM »
first time is this the color i should have got

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Re: the sodium citrate the same
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2014, 03:54:43 AM »
when i diluded it its a nice purple.  it did not turn the light pink like in video should i have it in the micro wave longer