Colloidal Silver and Gold Forum

Ah, I´ll have an eye on this.

Karo is not available in Austria/ Germany.
I am looking for an alternative.
It appears that Rice Syrup has a similar composition: glucose and maltose and oligosaccharides
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Would this make it a useful candidate?

I believe it will work ok.

I'm not confusing anything.
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Well here is the real confusion.  The confusion is between drops and ml.  I was talking milliliters in my post and you were talking drops.  Thats a big difference.

But if we are talking the same units, then the difference is 2 to 1, where I use twice as much Karo as you, which gives me somewhat faster reduction.

As you have said yourself several times, speed of reduction should be faster than speed of production.  So speed of production is current dependent while speed of reduction is reducer concentration dependent.  Since I always run at 15ma, I choose 1ml per liter for 20ppm, being easy to remember and measure with a syringe.  I never count drops for anything, as a cheap 1ml syringe is much easier..

I'm not confusing anything.

Back quite a while ago, there was a discussion and you said that a divisor of 16000 for 50/50 karo/vodka wasn't sufficient and after some back and forth you said 2000 would be a better one.

No I am NOT misremembering.

I would NOT have made this decision/change myself. It was something you said in a post.

Owing to the wonderful search facility on this forum, I cannot find that post that this discussion was in.  I did find a reference to that post in another topic in a post made by someone other than myself, but no date of the topic this was discussed in nor a link to the topic was provided.

I did find this post by you:

https://www.cgcsforum.org/index.php?topic=5438.msg45002#msg45002

Where you said you changed the number of drops of Karo/Vodka to 40 in the quickstart guide (making 250ml of 320PPM).  Um? Thats a divisor of 2000, not 16000!

PPM * DW(ml) / 2000

320 * 250 / 2000 = 40 drops

You in fact DID make this change as evidenced above, but the original discussion that may have led up to this, I can't find the post it was in.

If you look in Kephra's Notebook, Colloidal silver Quickstart Guide for the formula
320 ppm Gelatin Capped Metallic colloidal silver you can clearly see the change from 15 drops of 50/50 karo to 40 as stated above. OK, you said karo/water but we both know karo/vodka, same thing.

Now the confusing thing is the title of the  quickstart guide post says the most recent update was on 3/21/15 so if we're to believe this as opposed to a more recent date for the change (perhaps when you updated it you overlooked updating the most recent update date in the title?), this change has been in effect for over 9 years already.

I'm not remembering it was made THAT far back but certainly 2-3 year ago at least.

Faraday's Law (minutes to run cell to desired PPM)
   PPM * <liters> * 15 / <cell current(milliamps)>

I do want to correct something that was said back in 2017 (yeah I know - ancient history).

A US 1 quart Mason jar is NOT 1 quart!

It is to the very top of the rim which is unusable.

That embossed band at the bottom of the rim is more around 0.9 liters (900ml). That ring is NOT the quart indicator! Its there for a completely different purpose...

When you're canning (always water based), thats a DO NOT FILL ABOVE THIS LINE indicator because it takes into account the expansion of water due to the about 215-225F temperature inside a pressure cooker/canner. If you fill above this line the jar WILL overflow in the cooker.

Just fill the jar to as high up on the rim as you feel comfortable doing for making Colloidal Silver and then measure the volume (you only have to do this once  - write it down) and use that number.