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Yeah the whole thing I would just like to find all the info in one place and have that saved so I can easily provide it all instead of scratching my head each time I need to explain it,.
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Colloidal Silver Production / Re: Help about "real sodium carbonate"
« Last post by Cecchetti on Today at 05:58:08 AM »
Thanks a lot :)
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This January 3rd, I gained 6 inches around my waist in 2 days.  Wife took me to hospital where I was CT scanned and ultrasounded.  Results showed I have non-alcohol fatty liver, ascites, enlarged heart, enlarged pulmonary artery, and diverticulitis.  I was given an Rx for augmentin and sent home.  I couldn't eat much, and in 5 weeks, have lost 30 pounds. But, I have not recovered.  I suspect a misdiagnosis.

So, I no longer have the strength or ability to build SilverTrons.  Accordingly, I am closing the SilverTron store.

To all the people who have been asking me when they would be available again, I doubt they ever will.

I wish you all well and I thank all of my past customers.
First I wish you well and hope you recover, my Mother-in-law had all those same things, which a pacemaker help her deal with most symptoms.  It is the diverticulitis that has me very curious.  Those bulging inflamed pouches form for a reason.  After reading the Journal of Nanobiotechnology article you posted a link to, and seeing the images of what happens with silver in the lining of the colon, I would be very interested to see if your CT scan showed any small light spots (silver) in the infected area??   I recently was diagnosed with Transverse Myelitis (similar to MS) and I could not get enough of the 3 dimension images from the MRI scans to view the lesions on my spinal column.  Doesn't do me a bit of good, but I find that stuff fascinating.

I'll keep you in my prayers.
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Count me in. I'll buy one for sure.  I will start saving my money now that we are in an economic downturn. Any WAG's to the price of these possible units?
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That whole concept is interesting, you also have to consider the surface area of your silver anode too right? Bars versus 12ga silver wires? Those should impact the height or depth of the cathode I should think?
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In-vitro is not real life and doesn't completely model the gut.
In practice, this has not been a problem.
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Questions and Comments about Articles / Re: questions about electrolyte
« Last post by wgpeters on Today at 01:19:02 AM »
wgpeters,

Thank you so much for your reply. It makes sense to me that the choice of 8.5 was a practical compromise between opposing trends of silver plate-out and maintaining a suitable cell voltage. I can see that this would be so from my own very recent experiments in this direction.

I also understand from this that the electrolyte's ability to prevent plate-out is, although significant, limited and not absolute. Conversely, the same can be said of the "scavenging action" of the elevated cell voltage...... These two implications actually answer some questions I was reserving to ask!

Thanks.

rogwhat53
Yes, the 7 ph minimum is required by the Karo or maltodextrin type reducing agents.  Below 7, these molecules assume a ring structure where the reducing end eats the other end of the molecule with the result that there is no reducing structure available to reduce silver. 

At 8.5 ph, the water is very conductive which results in a small amount of cathode in the water to get above 10 volts.  With the small amount of cathode, the sodium ions are trapped in a smaller area making them closer together which makes it harder for silver ions to sneak through. 

Everything is a balance.  I tried to pick the best balance so everything could dance together best.
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This is not clear. Kephra posted an article about particle size, and which is best.  (10nm to 20nm) and he quoted the Journal of Nanobiotechnology study done on concentrations and particle sizes from 10nm to 110nm.  But that article contradicts what he said.

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Conclusions
The results of this study show that small-size (10nm) AgNP have significant effects on intestinal permeability in an in vitro
model of the human gastrointestinal epithelium. Such effects have the potential to compromise the integrity of the
intestinal epithelium and this disruption of barrier function could have health consequences for the gastrointestinal tract.

It did not mention anything smaller than 10nm, like the 0.8nm size as being toxic as he implied.  This article concludes in vitro models show 10-20nm are bad.

There is mention of the lack of ability to tell how much are ions versus particles in the solution, but it does point to silver in that size range (and smaller) as a potential cause for gut issues (say leaky gut).   That is disturbing.
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wgpeters,

Thank you so much for your reply. It makes sense to me that the choice of 8.5 was a practical compromise between opposing trends of silver plate-out and maintaining a suitable cell voltage. I can see that this would be so from my own very recent experiments in this direction.

I also understand from this that the electrolyte's ability to prevent plate-out is, although significant, limited and not absolute. Conversely, the same can be said of the "scavenging action" of the elevated cell voltage...... These two implications actually answer some questions I was reserving to ask!

Thanks.

rogwhat53
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