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Offline SaltyCornflakes

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Gold electrode weight test & results
« on: October 12, 2019, 08:55:36 AM »
I have tested two gold coins. The scale used is a no-name 0.01g scale. But let's assume that if the scale is off, it should be off in both cases. The weights are not that different.

A Maple Leaf in mint condition reads as 31.20g, averaged over 5 weightings of 31.19g - 31.21g.
A Maple Leaf after having ran 13 litres of Electrolysis III (40ppm, using aqua bidest) reads as 29.97g, averaged over 5 weightings of 29.96g - 29.99g.

13 x 40mg gold lost should amount to only 520mg total. But I'm seeing more than twice that at 1.23g. How can this be?
Related question: Does sodium carbonate act like sodium chloride to pull more gold from the electrode? Using a bit of sodium carbonate results in much better particle size for me. Leaving it out has always resulted in a purple product.
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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2019, 09:14:51 AM »
No, you need to use sodium chloride to give the chloride ion for the correct process. We are reducing gold chloride, and the chloride has to come from somewhere.
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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2019, 09:21:24 AM »
That's what I figured, cheers. So that eliminates the only possibility for using up extra gold. The sodium chloride is measured close to exact for 40ppm.

It would be great if someone with an accurate scale doing Electrolysis III could post their results.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2019, 10:31:09 AM by SaltyCornflakes »

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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2019, 02:02:43 PM »
I confirmed the weights. Really curious to hear what could be the reason for this, and how to use gold more effectively. Higher voltage?

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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2019, 07:58:37 PM »
The general case is that you run the maximum voltage available from the PSU. Turn off any Constant Current setting.

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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2020, 06:25:55 PM »
I have tested two gold coins. The scale used is a no-name 0.01g scale. But let's assume that if the scale is off, it should be off in both cases. The weights are not that different.

A Maple Leaf in mint condition reads as 31.20g, averaged over 5 weightings of 31.19g - 31.21g.
A Maple Leaf after having ran 13 litres of Electrolysis III (40ppm, using aqua bidest) reads as 29.97g, averaged over 5 weightings of 29.96g - 29.99g.

13 x 40mg gold lost should amount to only 520mg total. But I'm seeing more than twice that at 1.23g. How can this be?
Related question: Does sodium carbonate act like sodium chloride to pull more gold from the electrode? Using a bit of sodium carbonate results in much better particle size for me. Leaving it out has always resulted in a purple product.

hi, i am wondering how did you use a coin having 1.81inch / 3 CM  in diameter  for making 13 liters of water, how did you submerge the coin? did you put a hole in coin and then submerged in the water? if yes, then was the wire connected to coin was  covered ? or you just submerged the coin 2cm into the water from the surface? I will appreciate if you have any picture if you can show us regarding the use of gold coin in making colloidal water.

Please advise.

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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2020, 06:57:55 PM »
I submerged the coin halfway held by a stainless crocodile clip. The 13 litres I produced was over a long period of time, not all at once.

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Re: Gold electrode weight test & results
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2020, 09:25:28 PM »
I submerged the coin halfway held by a stainless crocodile clip. The 13 litres I produced was over a long period of time, not all at once.
Thanks a lot, i am working with 3D printer to come up with something to connect gold coins together, like one below each other without soldering, metal or anything which will interfere with electrolysis. :)
My plan is to connect 3 coins one below each other and put them in long beaker to make like 2 liter or above at once because you must consume quite a bit to make it work in the body as per Kephra's other post, And gold rods are very expensive, people who are selling wants 1.9times price of the actual gold, say for example 1 gram of gold rod is 1.9$ while the price of actual gold in gold rod is 1$, I understand the cost of fabrication and all but its too much for me, i will rather buy 99.99% gold bar/coin and use them.