HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron

[imcool]

https://www.cgcsforum.org/index.php?topic=5066.msg41882#msg41882

Videos from forum are here.

[Etheric Zone 1111]

I would love to do a YouTube video using Kehpras New Tutorial But I want to make sure that I learn the process from start to finish and turn out the most accurate product .

Iv made videos making Colloidal Silver , but using a basic set up, I currently purchased a Lab bench power supply and still leaning the advanced process .

I hope that some of the more knowledgeable members can make a start to finish video using this thread as a foundation .

Stay Safe everyone !
Ed

[Smoke7]

Just for curiosity.
Which method is: better/different/accurate/safer to make a colloidal silver?
1.   Make ionic silver in room temperature and then turn in to colloidal with reducing agent and heat up to 140%
2.    Adding reducing agent with electrolyte and apply heat while creating colloidal silver?

Thank you, Gregory

It makes very little difference. Either is fine. Some people may be concerned that adding the reducing agent at the beginning means that a tiny amount of the reducing agent gets electrolysed, but this is a very small amount and is pretty insignificant. I personally add all reagents except gelatine at the beginning.

[Smoke7]

Just for curiosity.
Which method is: better/different/accurate/safer to make a colloidal silver?
1.   Make ionic silver in room temperature and then turn in to colloidal with reducing agent and heat up to 140%
2.    Adding reducing agent with electrolyte and apply heat while creating colloidal silver?

Thank you, Gregory

It makes very little difference. Either is fine. Some people may be concerned that adding the reducing agent at the beginning means that a tiny amount of the reducing agent gets electrolysed, but this is a very small amount and is pretty insignificant. I personally add all reagents except gelatine at the beginning.

Thank you for all your time and help.
The reason I asked, because I made a Colloidal Silver generator all in one box (power supply, speed control, voltage and current regulator with magnetic stirring and not able to heat), or I can use butane ring burner, but not able to constantly stir.

[Etheric Zone 1111]

Just for curiosity.
Which method is: better/different/accurate/safer to make a colloidal silver?
1.   Make ionic silver in room temperature and then turn in to colloidal with reducing agent and heat up to 140%
2.    Adding reducing agent with electrolyte and apply heat while creating colloidal silver?

Thank you, Gregory

It makes very little difference. Either is fine. Some people may be concerned that adding the reducing agent at the beginning means that a tiny amount of the reducing agent gets electrolysed, but this is a very small amount and is pretty insignificant. I personally add all reagents except gelatine at the beginning.

Thank you for all your time and help.
The reason I asked, because I made a Colloidal Silver generator all in one box (power supply, speed control, voltage and current regulator with magnetic stirring and not able to heat), or I can use butane ring burner, but not able to constantly stir.

Pretty cool set up!

Is that a 50v 5ma Module ?

[imcool]

Just for curiosity.
Which method is: better/different/accurate/safer to make a colloidal silver?
1.   Make ionic silver in room temperature and then turn in to colloidal with reducing agent and heat up to 140%
2.    Adding reducing agent with electrolyte and apply heat while creating colloidal silver?

Thank you, Gregory

It makes very little difference. Either is fine. Some people may be concerned that adding the reducing agent at the beginning means that a tiny amount of the reducing agent gets electrolysed, but this is a very small amount and is pretty insignificant. I personally add all reagents except gelatine at the beginning.

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good question

[RedDogJT]

Just for curiosity.
Which method is: better/different/accurate/safer to make a colloidal silver?
1.   Make ionic silver in room temperature and then turn in to colloidal with reducing agent and heat up to 140%
2.    Adding reducing agent with electrolyte and apply heat while creating colloidal silver?

Thank you, Gregory

It makes very little difference. Either is fine. Some people may be concerned that adding the reducing agent at the beginning means that a tiny amount of the reducing agent gets electrolysed, but this is a very small amount and is pretty insignificant. I personally add all reagents except gelatine at the beginning.

Thank you for all your time and help.
The reason I asked, because I made a Colloidal Silver generator all in one box (power supply, speed control, voltage and current regulator with magnetic stirring and not able to heat), or I can use butane ring burner, but not able to constantly stir.

I prefer number 1 for now for similar reasons. Glad to see that it really does not make a difference.
Very impressive setup Smoke! Maybe you can host a video of you using that device and later give details on its construction.

[Smoke7]

Just for curiosity.
Which method is: better/different/accurate/safer to make a colloidal silver?
1.   Make ionic silver in room temperature and then turn in to colloidal with reducing agent and heat up to 140%
2.    Adding reducing agent with electrolyte and apply heat while creating colloidal silver?

Thank you, Gregory

It makes very little difference. Either is fine. Some people may be concerned that adding the reducing agent at the beginning means that a tiny amount of the reducing agent gets electrolysed, but this is a very small amount and is pretty insignificant. I personally add all reagents except gelatine at the beginning.

Thank you for all your time and help.
The reason I asked, because I made a Colloidal Silver generator all in one box (power supply, speed control, voltage and current regulator with magnetic stirring and not able to heat), or I can use butane ring burner, but not able to constantly stir.

Pretty cool set up!

Is that a 50v 5ma Module ?

It is:

Current Conversion:    DC to DC
Input voltage:            DC 5-36V
Output voltage:           1.25-32V DC
Output Power:           up to 75W (Please use it within 50W)
Output current:           Adjustable, from 0 up to 5A (Please use it within 4.5A)

I removed current and voltage on board regulators and replaced with 2 variable potentiometers for ease adjustments (two on top of my box) 

You can search E-Bay: 5A DC Buck Step Down Power Converter Voltage Current Regulator.

[Etheric Zone 1111]

Yes I was look8ng at a 50v 5ma Module to build my own power supply.

https://www.ebay.com/i/253362877198?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=253362877198&targetid=907798224154&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012276&poi=&campaignid=9338046428&mkgroupid=94993970859&rlsatarget=pla-907798224154&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118852035&gclid=CjwKCAjw1cX0BRBmEiwAy9tKHko8ptjYsioVKfDfRAzCrOvthbA539EmtaRLrM_K2UjlfLDhH1_-exoCoDQQAvD_BwE

Ed

[imcool]

Yes I was look8ng at a 50v 5ma Module to build my own power supply.

https://www.ebay.com/i/253362877198?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=253362877198&targetid=907798224154&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012276&poi=&campaignid=9338046428&mkgroupid=94993970859&rlsatarget=pla-907798224154&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118852035&gclid=CjwKCAjw1cX0BRBmEiwAy9tKHko8ptjYsioVKfDfRAzCrOvthbA539EmtaRLrM_K2UjlfLDhH1_-exoCoDQQAvD_BwE

Ed

from where will you provide 50v dc in that module? i am wondering about that too, as I have to do the same. I only have 30vdc bench power supply

[Etheric Zone 1111]

According to the tutorial 50v is not needed, 30v @ 5ma is where I want to be, when making 20ppm using 10 Gauge Silver Rods , From what I understand I have to maintain a minimum between the probes of 10v ..

I’m still learning this advanced process .
Ed

[Smoke7]

Yes I was look8ng at a 50v 5ma Module to build my own power supply.

https://www.ebay.com/i/253362877198?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=253362877198&targetid=907798224154&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012276&poi=&campaignid=9338046428&mkgroupid=94993970859&rlsatarget=pla-907798224154&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118852035&gclid=CjwKCAjw1cX0BRBmEiwAy9tKHko8ptjYsioVKfDfRAzCrOvthbA539EmtaRLrM_K2UjlfLDhH1_-exoCoDQQAvD_BwE

Ed

Ed,
The module you showed me is not 5ma, it is 5AMP and it is a similar module to what I have, only more modern and 50v VS mine is 36. It will do an awesome job for the generator, however in my opinion 50V is a little bit overkill. I have never seen that somebody will use more than 30V but I may be wrong and also to get up to 50v you will have to provide 50v power supply which will be harder to find and more expensive.  I may be able to help you with the power supply, we use CISCO access points at work which has a 48v power supply. I will search E-Bay and if I find one I will send you a link.

[wgpeters]

You normally don't need 50 volts.
The reason you need more volts than 10 going into your power module is so that the module has voltage available to control the current.  So if the cell resistance becomes high (like raising the cathode), the module can apply more voltage to maintain the desired current, and if the cell resistance is lower, the module can decrease the applied voltage to bring the current back to the desired level.  Current equals voltage divided by resistance.

BUT remember the 10 volts minimum is for an electrode spacing of 1.5 inches (37mm)
At 2 inches, you need 12 volts
At 3 inches, you need 16.5 volts
This is to provide the same electric field strength which propels ions from one electrode to the other.

Required volts = 4.33 X Spacing in inches plus 3.5

Higher ppm does not require higher volts.

[Etheric Zone 1111]

I will be using 1.5” Spacing with my 10 Gauge Silver Rods .
I will only be making 20ppm colloidal silver .

I found a HP printer 30v 3a power supply that can provide the power for the above module , but I don’t know if 3a will be sufficient for the process.
HP 0957-2286 Printer AC Power Supply Adapter Output 30V 333mA Transformer

Ed

[Etheric Zone 1111]

Yes I was look8ng at a 50v 5ma Module to build my own power supply.

https://www.ebay.com/i/253362877198?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=253362877198&targetid=907798224154&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012276&poi=&campaignid=9338046428&mkgroupid=94993970859&rlsatarget=pla-907798224154&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118852035&gclid=CjwKCAjw1cX0BRBmEiwAy9tKHko8ptjYsioVKfDfRAzCrOvthbA539EmtaRLrM_K2UjlfLDhH1_-exoCoDQQAvD_BwE

Ed

Ed,
The module you showed me is not 5ma, it is 5AMP and it is a similar module to what I have, only more modern and 50v VS mine is 36. It will do an awesome job for the generator, however in my opinion 50V is a little bit overkill. I have never seen that somebody will use more than 30V but I may be wrong and also to get up to 50v you will have to provide 50v power supply which will be harder to find and more expensive.  I may be able to help you with the power supply, we use CISCO access points at work which has a 48v power supply. I will search E-Bay and if I find one I will send you a link.

I found this HP printer power source that could power the above module , I won’t need 50v .
HP 0957-2286 Printer AC Power Supply Adapter Output 30V 333mA Transformer