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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #120 on: April 17, 2020, 05:50:46 AM »
hi all, i am confused.Do silvertron owners still have to put reducing and capping agent for making colloidal silver?
thanks for replying

Yes, they do. Everything is exactly the same as the process above, the SilverTron just takes the place of the PSU and calculates the process in real time. The SilverTron is an exercise in precision. The process is otherwise exactly the same.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2020, 08:38:27 AM by cfnisbet »

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2020, 05:49:33 PM »
Click on the image to get a better display. If this is still not good enough I will take the photo or a series of photos again.

So the multi meter remains connected  throughout the entire process ?
Can the Power supply monitor the same readings as the Multi meter?

Thanks Ed

The multimeter is connected throughout the process, because it is accurate and the meter built into the asctual PSU is not (unless you are very lucky). The PSU meter will almost certainly not give the same reading.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2020, 10:01:25 PM by cfnisbet »

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #122 on: April 17, 2020, 07:03:15 PM »
Click on the image to get a better display. If this is still not good enough I will take the photo or a series of photos again.

So the multi meter remains connected  throughout the entire process ?
Can the Power supply monitor the same readings as the Multi meter?

Thanks Ed
Ed,
You don’t really need the multimeter your module will do just great. They multimeter just to double check making sure that your module is providing the same voltage on output. However most cheap multimeters are not accurate. You can measure once to compare your module with multimeter if it has the same amp or voltage through the multimeter.
By the way your module is a multimiter.
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #123 on: April 17, 2020, 07:58:18 PM »
Always turn your voltage control full up, maximum.
Adjust current with the current control. 
The power supply will then vary the voltage to keep the current constant.
Current = voltage divided by resistance.
Resistance is determined by your cell chemistry which changes with time, and the electrode configuration.

If you are changing the ma (current) by raising and lowering the cathode, you are doing it wrong.
Damn, I was afraid of that. I did do it wrong then. So I've narrowed the problem down to my lack of understanding of the PSU.
It will not stay on CC.  I read someplace here that you have to short out the unit to get it to switch to CC? Short might be the wrong term, but could you point me in the right direction?


This can often happen if you try to adjust the CC circuit too high. If this happens, just run the batch and manually note the current. The amperage will eventually climb into the CC zone.
Any chance you can show me a video or elaborate more on that one point. I've very close but that CC vs CV on the power supply is confusing me. Sorry for being so dense.

1) Adjust voltage to max.
2) Adjust amperage to min.
3) Start the process, turn on the power.
4) Turn the current up VERY SLOWLY IN TINY INCREMENTS. The CC lamp should light.
5) Turn up the current adjuster very slightly until it is registering the desired current. If everything is working perfectly, the CC light should stay lit and the current should be on the correct desired current.
6) However, sometimes the CC light goes out and the unit will still be working, but the current (amperage) will slowly climb up to the set point, at which time the CC light will come back on, indicating that the current is now high enough to be regulated.
7) Continue the run to the end.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 09:02:27 PM by cfnisbet »
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #124 on: April 17, 2020, 08:21:57 PM »
Click on the image to get a better display. If this is still not good enough I will take the photo or a series of photos again.

So the multi meter remains connected  throughout the entire process ?
Can the Power supply monitor the same readings as the Multi meter?

Thanks Ed
Ed,
You don’t really need the multimeter your module will do just great. They multimeter just to double check making sure that your module is providing the same voltage on output. However most cheap multimeters are not accurate. You can measure once to compare your module with multimeter if it has the same amp or voltage through the multimeter.
By the way your module is a multimiter.

Thank you !
Much clearer now!
Ed

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2020, 04:28:05 PM »
Now for the electrode array.

You will need a few 1" copper nails (steel will do), a strip of 6 plastic electrical junctions, a brass rod for the cathode (thick copper or alloy wire will do), a small crocodile clip of sufficient strength to hold onto your chosen anode, and a piece of polythene mesh or sheet (I used a plastic gutter cover, but you could use a plastic cutting board or sheet of perspex).

The first few photos are attached; click to expand a photo in order to magnify it.

In the UK, all the items are available from B&Q or other retail builders' merchants. I would imagine that the USA has the same things (only half the price!)

Do you have a link of the plastic terminal that holds the Anode and cathode Bard , I will be using 10 Gauge Silver Rods .

Thanks Ed

Link is here:

https://www.diy.com/departments/b-q-white-30a-6-way-cable-connector-strip/178061_BQ.prd
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 10:22:46 AM by cfnisbet »

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #126 on: April 18, 2020, 11:14:16 PM »
Thank you!

I ordered everything to start the advanced tutorial!
I am awaiting on a few items .

To recap :

I will be making 20ppm Colloidal silver using Kehpras forum Formula.

I will be using the following :

 :1000ml beaker.
: 2-10 Gauge Silver Anode / Cathode
: 50v 5A Power supply
: will set the current to 5ma
: the voltage will be set to 30v and it will be  monitored to make sure it remains at 10volts or above .
: Electrolysis duration 1:Hr ( Not 100 Minutes ? )

If successful the Tyndall effect should be minimal to none?

Yes, you can forget about any Tyndall, but it should ideally be minimal.

Thanks again!
Ed

Once I have all the items I will make a video so that my children have access to this knowledge in the future..
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 10:21:23 AM by cfnisbet »

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2020, 12:13:06 AM »
Always turn your voltage control full up, maximum.
Adjust current with the current control. 
The power supply will then vary the voltage to keep the current constant.
Current = voltage divided by resistance.
Resistance is determined by your cell chemistry which changes with time, and the electrode configuration.

If you are changing the ma (current) by raising and lowering the cathode, you are doing it wrong.
Damn, I was afraid of that. I did do it wrong then. So I've narrowed the problem down to my lack of understanding of the PSU.
It will not stay on CC.  I read someplace here that you have to short out the unit to get it to switch to CC? Short might be the wrong term, but could you point me in the right direction?


This can often happen if you try to adjust the CC circuit too high. If this happens, just run the batch and manually note the current. The amperage will eventually climb into the CC zone.
Any chance you can show me a video or elaborate more on that one point. I've very close but that CC vs CV on the power supply is confusing me. Sorry for being so dense.

1) Adjust voltage to max.
2) Adjust amperage to min.
3) Start the process, turn on the power.
4) Turn the current up VERY SLOWLY IN TINY INCREMENTS. The CC lamp should light.
5) Turn up the current adjuster very slightly until it is registering the desired current. If everything is working perfectly, the CC light should stay lit and the current should be on the correct desired current.
6) However, sometimes the CC light goes out and the unit will still be working, but the current (amperage) will slowly climb up to the set point, at which time the CC light will come back on, indicating that the current is now high enough to be regulated.
7) Continue the run to the end.


if you are having issues with power supply, this can be of help, I found this on amazon




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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #128 on: April 19, 2020, 09:33:37 PM »
I am attempting to make litre of colloidal silver using the methods explained in this thread.
what colour colloidal silver to expect when made at 20ppm with gelatine only as capping and sodium carbonate as electrolyte.

Liam is correct. (Below) 20 ppm is bright yellow, maybe a little darker if you reduce with maltodextrin.
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #129 on: April 19, 2020, 10:13:59 PM »
Check the color samples that are already posted.

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #130 on: April 20, 2020, 12:32:41 AM »
Check the color samples that are already posted.
Thanks Liam,
I didnt see any color samples in this particular thread.
I know cfnisbet has mentioned yellow colour in his instructions when using non-gelatine capping agents - but I wasn't sure if that also applied to gelatine capping.
Should be looking at a different thread for Colloidal Silver colour related to gelatine capping?

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #131 on: April 20, 2020, 01:35:31 AM »
Thank you!

I ordered everything to start the advanced tutorial!
I am awaiting on a few items .

To recap :

I will be making 20ppm Colloidal silver using Kehpras forum Formula.

I will be using the following :

 :1000ml beaker.
: 2-10 Gauge Silver Anode / Cathode
: 50v 5A Power supply
: will set the current to 5ma
: the voltage will be set to 30v and it will be  monitored to make sure it remains at 10volts or above .
: Electrolysis duration 1:Hr ( Not 100 Minutes ? )

If successful the Tyndall effect should be minimal to none?

Yes, you can forget about any Tyndall, but it should ideally be minimal.

Thanks again!
Ed

Once I have all the items I will make a video so that my children have access to this knowledge in the future..
Good luck ED.
Check the link below. It is a Computer Application for your module. You can install and control your module with your computer or Android phone/pad ETC. If you are a computer person it will be easier. The file you need is DPS5005 (do not download DPH)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3iogirsx1s0vp/DPS_communication_upper_computer
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #132 on: April 20, 2020, 04:45:26 AM »
Thank you!

I ordered everything to start the advanced tutorial!
I am awaiting on a few items .

To recap :

I will be making 20ppm Colloidal silver using Kehpras forum Formula.

I will be using the following :

 :1000ml beaker.
: 2-10 Gauge Silver Anode / Cathode
: 50v 5A Power supply
: will set the current to 5ma
: the voltage will be set to 30v and it will be  monitored to make sure it remains at 10volts or above .
: Electrolysis duration 1:Hr ( Not 100 Minutes ? )

If successful the Tyndall effect should be minimal to none?

Yes, you can forget about any Tyndall, but it should ideally be minimal.

Thanks again!
Ed

Once I have all the items I will make a video so that my children have access to this knowledge in the future..
Good luck ED.
Check the link below. It is a Computer Application for your module. You can install and control your module with your computer or Android phone/pad ETC. If you are a computer person it will be easier. The file you need is DPS5005 (do not download DPH)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3iogirsx1s0vp/DPS_communication_upper_computer

which module? can you please link for module as well, Regards

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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #133 on: April 20, 2020, 09:10:58 AM »
The module was posted by "Etheric Zone 1111" (Ed) on page 7
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Re: HOW TO MAKE COLLOIDAL SILVER if you can't get a SilverTron
« Reply #134 on: April 20, 2020, 04:14:46 PM »
Thank you!
Can’t wait to start!

Ed